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Ep. 8: My First Trial

Many young lawyers dream about their first jury trial or court appearance. Few older lawyers can ever forget his or hers. For a new attorney, your first jury trial MAY BE one of the most frightening and exciting things you’ll ever do. If you actually ever get to trial.

For this episode, we’ve spoken with novice and experienced litigators about the challenges they face as they continue to practice, hear revealing antidotes from early in their careers and for a private practice attorney, the rarity of actually going to trial. We hope you take away some valuable advice and leave this episode with a better understanding of what it means to be a trial attorney.

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Produced by Lynz Floren and Melissa Algaze, with assistance from Shawn Talley, Aaron Estrada, and Vanessa Villagomez.

Guests (in order of appearance):

Gillian H. Clow


Gillian Clow is a graduate of Loyola Law School Los Angeles and is now an associate at Alston & Bird LLP in the firm’s litigation and trial practice group. Gillian is also a member of LACBA’s Barristers/Young Attorneys Executive Committee, serving as the Social Media Chair. She’s also actively involved in the Los Angeles community and serves on the Inner City Law Center’s pro bono council and regularly takes on pro bono matters.


Brian Kabateck


Brian Kabateck serves as Founding and Managing Partner of Kabateck LLP. Brian is a nationally recognized and respected consumer attorney, and a preeminent leader in the fight to ensure access to the justice system. He’s a powerful advocate in the courtroom and at the California State Capitol for consumers’ rights and protections. Brian also serves as the 2018-2019 LACBA President as well as Chairman of Loyola Law School’s Board of Directors.


Marketa Sims

Marketa Sims

Marketa Sims is an experienced criminal defense attorney. She served for seventeen years as an Assistant Federal Public Defender in the Western District of Pennsylvania, where she tried numerous cases, briefed and argued appeals, and provided training and assistance to the Criminal Justice Act panel. Most recently, Marketa served as a Deputy Public Defender for the Law Offices of the Los Angeles County Public Defender. She currently serves at the Writs and Appeals Attorney for LACBA’s Independent Juvenile Defender Program (IJDP).


Michael D. Schwartz

Michael D. Schwartz

Michael D. Schwartz has tried 259 cases to completion, nearly all of which have been jury trials, and is a fellow in the American College of Trial Lawyers.  He received a Bachelor of Arts with Magna Cum Laude distinction from the University of California at Los Angeles in 1983, and a Juris Doctor from the UCLA School of Law in 1987. Michael began his legal career in 1988 at Morrison & Foerster as a litigation associate, representing plaintiffs and defendants in state and federal court.  From 1993 to 2018 he served as a criminal prosecutor at the Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office. In 2019 Michael opened The Michael Schwartz Law Firm, where he will try civil and criminal cases with and for other attorneys. Michael has been an active member of the LACBA, where he served as President of the Barristers Section, as a Trustee of the LACBA, and as a Member of the Judicial Appointments Committee. For more about the TAP program Michael mentions, please visit



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